A World Civilisation or a Clash of Civilisations

"Red Ken" Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London, debates Daniel Pipes. Part one,

Part 2,  part 3 ,  part 4,  part 5,  part 6,  part 7,  part 8.

Parts 1&2 feature Ken Livingstone,

Livingstone then went on to mention that for 500 years Europe and the USA have dominated the world and that there is no nexus around the White House, Washington and Wall Street as they try to impose their culture on the world. He concluded by saying that the 'Islamophobic' media in the UK are trying to show that a ‘lower culture is taking over,‘ but in fact 90% of British Pakistani 16-year-old girls say their parents do not expect them to get married and have children but instead to have careers.

3&4 Daniel Pipes,

He added that George Galloway and the Progressives have the three same enemies -- the USA, the UK and Israel. (There was applause when Pipes quoted Galloway. ) To illustrate his point about London being the centre of Jihad he observed that on the 16th of February 2003 in Hyde Park there was a rally to promote radical ideas. Pipes quoted the composer Karlheinz Stockhausen, who said that 9/11 was the greatest work of art in the whole cosmos.

part 5,  Salma Yaqoub,

Salma Yaqoub got off to a roaring start by announcing that terror attacks are actually ‘Reprisal events ‘, for example the July 7 2005 tube and bus bombings in London. It is not, she stressed, Muslims but the neocons who ‘present a problem as a culture clash.’

part 6, Douglas Murray,

Leaning against the podium and addressing his comments in the direction of Salma Yaqoub, Murray asked “Why are Muslims killing Muslims all over the world?. Was Bertrand Delano, the Mayor of Paris not stabbed by a Muslim because he was gay?’Emphasising the ‘backward norms of Islam, Murray reminded the audience that Muslims are being killed by other Muslims if they do not submit to these norms. A delicious moment unfolded when Murray asked, ‘How is multiculturalism going in Saudi Arabia?’ and this was greeted with laughter and applause. ‘Are there any synagogues or churches there?’ More applause and laughter.

7&8 are questions from the audience.

The above quotes are from Jewish Comment . Danial Pipes comments on his blog. 910 Group provided the videos and is promising transcripts.